Back in USSR

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#1by linuxm@n » 18.05.2006, 21:33

Hello i'm working to relook or create new addon about russian spacecraft like soyuz series, salyut lunokhod and sputnik 2.

Here are some screenshots ImageImage







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other screenshots on the french forum:


http://www.ikiru.ch/celestia/forum/inde ... wtopic=243
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#2by Echo » 20.05.2006, 08:07

:D Respect.
It look so amazing.
When release?

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#3by linuxm@n » 24.05.2006, 15:39

Thanks
I think it will be released for some weeks, but i must write ssc files and optimize models.

Another Soyouz astp model with Apollo.
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And the Soyouz tma2


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#4by bh » 24.05.2006, 18:27

Very nice looking models...well done!
regards...bh.

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#5by linuxm@n » 25.05.2006, 23:41

Thanks, more some screnshots of the firt Soyouz model, saliout6 and the russian lunar module
work in progress...ImageImageImageImage

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#6by Jeam Tag » 27.05.2006, 18:29

linuxm@n wrote:Thanks, more some screnshots of the firt Soyouz model, saliout6 and the russian lunar module.Linuxman
Comme sur le forum francophone : pense ?  interligner tes images, Linuxman, sinon cel?  donne un message tr??s ?©tendu en largeur, moins ais?©ment lisible que l'habituel d?©filement haut/bas. Jeam
BTW, these models seem very interesting, really: the USSR fleet isn't so present in Celestia, you have had a good idea to model it.
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#7by linuxm@n » 05.06.2006, 14:08

bh wrote:Very nice looking models...well done!


You can download the first b??ta version on my site

http://celestiasws.free.fr

At the home page StarWarSaga click BACK IN USSR rubric.

It is not easy to find the spcecrafts, have a look on the cel's :






Spoutnik2

cel://follow/Sol:Earth:Sputnik-2/1957-1 ... 98775&lm=0

Lunokhod

cel://follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Lunokhod1/1 ... 98775&lm=0

Saliout 6 + Soyouz 26

cel://follow/Sol:Earth:Salyut6-Soyuz26/ ... 98775&lm=0

Apollo 19

cel://follow/Sol:Earth:Apollo-attach/19 ... 98775&lm=0

Soyouz-Apollo ASTP

cel://follow/Sol:Earth:Soyouz-apollo/19 ... 98775&lm=0

Soyouz ASTP seul

cel://follow/Sol:Earth:Soyouz-astp/1975 ... 98775&lm=0

Soyouz 4 module femelle

cel://follow/Sol:Earth:Soyouz-4f/1969-0 ... 98775&lm=0

Soyouz 5 module male

cel://follow/Sol:Earth:Soyouz-5m/1969-0 ... 98775&lm=0

Amarrage Soyouz 4-5

cel://syncorbit/Sol:Earth:Soyouz-4+5+amarr???©s-Soyuz26-28/1969-01-16T04:11:56.44692?x=/CzKLvSeG8i2DA&y=8EYuVSPOXg&z=K8g2fMJ0IxDy/////////w&ow=0.446477&ox=0.181685&oy=-0.140090&oz=0.864884&select=Sol:Earth:Soyouz-4+5+amarr%C3%A9s-Soyuz26-28&fov=54.043819&ts=0.000000&ltd=0&rf=298775&lm=0

The soyouz tma2 is flying in the 1988 1991 period.

You can find others spacecraft on the Moon like the space station Soyouz A+B and the lunar module Lk.

This version is just to have a look , be patient to have a final version

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#8by Malenfant » 05.06.2006, 14:43

Is that soviet lunar module entirely fictional, or is it based on an actual design than never was built?
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#9by selden » 05.06.2006, 15:14

It certainly resembles the LK lander design.

There are quite a few articles on Astronautix about the Soviet manned Lunar landing program. Apparently it didn't happen because their N1 launch vehicle never got off the ground.

See http://www.astronautix.com/craft/lk.htm
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#10by Cham » 05.06.2006, 17:13

I've just downloaded and tried this addon beta. It's an awesome work ! Some models are really terrific. I can't wait to install the final version, an absolute must have for Celestia.

Some models needs some adjustements : Some soyouz models have a central circular piece which have a small offset and need to be centered. Also, I suspect that the radii defined in the ssc files aren't right. The models appears (??) to be too big by a factor of 2 (radius = half diameter).

Geez, don't stop that good work, this will be an awesome addon !
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#11by Jeam Tag » 05.06.2006, 17:22

selden wrote:It certainly resembles the LK lander design.
There are quite a few articles on Astronautix about the Soviet manned Lunar landing program. Apparently it didn't happen because their N1 launch vehicle never got off the ground.
See http://www.astronautix.com/craft/lk.htm
You're absolutely right Selden, Linuxman based this model upon the Lunniy Korabl (Lunar wessel, IIRC) project. And, yes, the N1 explosions (just after the launches ( 2/21/ 69 ; 7/3/69; 7/27/71 and 11/23/72 ) stopped the lunar program... Jeam.
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#12by linuxm@n » 05.06.2006, 19:08

[quote="selden"]It certainly resembles the LK lander design.

Here the final version for the Lk lander


http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7019/lkclose7ne.png

And real photography

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/8138/lk078kg.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9899/lk127fx.jpg


Y have just upload a new pack with some corections

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#13by Jeam Tag » 06.06.2006, 12:14

linuxm@n wrote:
bh wrote:Very nice looking models...well done!
...
The soyouz tma2 is flying in the 1988 1991 period.

For the Soyouz tma2 you can try these dates

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"Soyouz-TMA2" "Sol/Earth"   # Mission "Agate"
{
   Class "spacecraft" 
   Mesh "soyuztma2.3ds"
   Radius 0.0046
   Beginning "2003 04 26"   # D?©collage de Ba??konour le 26 avril 2003 ?  03:53:52 TU
   Ending    "2003 10 28"   # Rentr?©e le 28 octobre 2003 ?  02:40:20 TU pr??s de Arkalyk
... and maybe, later, could you work with Bh to insert the sequence when TMA2 was docked to the ISS :lol: :lol:
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#14by linuxm@n » 08.06.2006, 17:55

[quote="Cham"]I've just downloaded and tried this addon beta. It's an awesome work ! Some models are really terrific. I can't wait to install the final version, an absolute must have for Celestia.

Thanks

I have just upload a new Back in USSR pack with corect ssc file and a "cel-url" file on my site celestiasws.free.fr

Some textures are modified and a new soyuz-lok on the moon.

I will have a look on my models this monday to reajust them.

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#15by selden » 08.06.2006, 19:16

Two suggestions:

1. Provide Cel URLs in an HTML file. Individual URLs could look like this:

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<li><a href="
cel-url-goes-here
">Describe URL here</a>

You don't need to include all the other information that is needed on a real Web page.

2. If you only update the text files, provide them alone in a separate "patch" zip file. It would be much smaller and faster to download than a complete new release.
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#16by Telepath » 08.06.2006, 20:59

One more suggestion Linux@man,

Very nice images in this thread but they are very large. Can I suggest you replace them with thumb-nailed images which will make the thread faster and easier to read.

(For dial-up users it takes so long to load them all, you get sick of waiting.
For broadband users, speed's obviously not an issue, but still could be a couple of megabytes out of your quota every time you re-visit the thread.)

:wink:
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#17by linuxm@n » 08.06.2006, 22:59

[quote="selden"]Two suggestions:

You can now find cel/url on my site
http://celestiasws.free.fr

Ok to try to use smaller zip files for updates

thanks for all suggestions

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#18by Jeam Tag » 12.06.2006, 21:03

Telepath wrote:One more suggestion Linux@man,
Very nice images in this thread but they are very large. Can I suggest you replace them with thumb-nailed images which will make the thread faster and easier to read.
(For dial-up users it takes so long to load them all, you get sick of waiting.
For broadband users, speed's obviously not an issue, but still could be a couple of megabytes out of your quota every time you re-visit the thread.)
:wink:
You can see little pics of this nice stuffs (remember, it is a beta for this moment) in my cat' where I try to comment them (http://jeam.tag.free.fr/CELESTIAhtml/CelestiaAddons-Spacecrafts-Historiques1.htm for example, and other pages about spacecrafts...) And yes, later, I would also use thumbnails, with more great pics linked, but I have no time to refressh dozains of pics now, sorry :twisted: Jeam
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#19by Jeam Tag » 12.06.2006, 21:21

linuxm@n wrote:thanks for all suggestions
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Just a little one, Linuxman: don't hesitate to ask here some help for the .ssc commands of the numerous vessels you provided. The net references are various, and some provide numerous errors (yes, really!)... so, the little notes I have send to you last hour were a little test to correct/add your first ones, but for perfect accuracy, honestly, you can ask here for completion. Jeam
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#20by linuxm@n » 25.06.2006, 14:44

Thanks jeam for the ssc files.

A new version with lot of correction on models and ssc files is ready on my site:

http://celestiasws.free.fr/

Soyouz 11 and Soyouz 11 module descent, Saliout 1 (firts space station in the world), Saliout 1 + soyouz 11, and Saliout 6 + soyouz 26+soyouz 27

If someone can propose best ssc file: welcome

Sorry for this big pack, for the next time only update pack will be availlable.

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